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- From: pitre@n5160d.nrl.navy.mil (Richard Pitre)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
- Date: 19 Mar 1996 17:12:10 GMT
- Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
- Message-ID: <4impta$nae@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
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- In article <4imm26$l8b@venus.roc.csci.csc.com> tottinge@csci.csc.com (Tim
- Ottinger) writes:
- > In article <4idfphINNnmb@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>,
- > c2a192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Kazimir Kylheku) wrote:
- > >In article <4icvu5$45t@natasha.rmii.com>, Jim Cochrane <jtc@rmii.com> wrote:
- > >>Unfortunately, many, if not most, job advertisements do exactly that -
- > >>inflexibly call for knowledge of a particular programming language or tool
- > >>set.
- > >
- > >And that of course reinforces all kinds of misconceptions and attitudes,
- like
- > >"if I learn this language that they are all asking for, I will land a kewl
- > >job".
- >
- > Actually, it's done for perfectly good reasons. It's so that you'll get
- > someone who has a good fit with the way the organization is working, and
- > someone whose skills are measurable by the employer. It's the reason you
- > don't get your teeth drilled and filled by carpenters. You want someone who
- > has done the things you're doing.
- >
- > Sadly, this reinforcement goes much further. People will see that a language
- > is popular, and then lie that they know it in order to get "the good jobs".
- A
- > lot of these people don't last very long, but sadly many do.
- >
- > We call them "low-mileage experts" or LMEs.
- >
- > It's hard not to be one sometimes, and it's what keeps me humble. I could be
- > an LME, if I let myself spout every theory I read. I have to keep myself
- > above that by keeping to what I know.
- >
- > I try to specify if I'm speculating or if I've empirical knowledge.
- >
- > In this case, I'm involved with enough candidate screening that I know for a
- > fact that there is quackery afoot, and I have known people with the moral
- > lapse of lying to get a job. It happens.
- >
- > Tim
- >
- >
-
- I'm not a professional programmer. From the little experience that I do have
- it would seem like "X years of experience programing in XYZ++" should count for
- less than "X years of total experience programming in the application area XYZ
- in any language supporting YXZ methodologies".
-
- I don't understand the insistence on particular languages. Those types of jobs
- postings look like a request for temporaries. Either that or the project
- managers don't know what programming is about, or the company
- doesn't give a damn about long term commitments its employees. What am I
- missing? The whole train?
-
-
- richard
-